Comments on: Why Did They Kill Caesar? http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/why-did-they-kill-caesar/ Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:56:22 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Ken Januski http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/why-did-they-kill-caesar/#comment-803 Ken Januski Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:54:58 +0000 http://100falcons.wordpress.com/?p=936#comment-803 Hi Swallows, After I commented I realized that maybe I shouldn't have since I don't want to get too much into art on your history blog. Out of curiosity though I did do a little more investigating to see if I could find the painter. It seems to be: Lionel-Noël Royer, 1899. The only reason I pursued this is that I think that there's something that often allows you to place a painting in its correct time period even if you know nothing about it. Maybe it's like birdwatching where even a new bird can be placed as a warbler, flycatcher, etc. What is interesting is that for art it's so hard to put into words exactly what makes it seem to be OF a time period. But this painting rings with late 19th century/early 20th century. And you're right it pales by comparison to the Veronese. But that is another topic for another blog! Hi Swallows,

After I commented I realized that maybe I shouldn’t have since I don’t want to get too much into art on your history blog. Out of curiosity though I did do a little more investigating to see if I could find the painter. It seems to be: Lionel-Noël Royer, 1899.

The only reason I pursued this is that I think that there’s something that often allows you to place a painting in its correct time period even if you know nothing about it. Maybe it’s like birdwatching where even a new bird can be placed as a warbler, flycatcher, etc. What is interesting is that for art it’s so hard to put into words exactly what makes it seem to be OF a time period. But this painting rings with late 19th century/early 20th century. And you’re right it pales by comparison to the Veronese. But that is another topic for another blog!

]]> By: 100swallows http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/why-did-they-kill-caesar/#comment-802 100swallows Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:37:49 +0000 http://100falcons.wordpress.com/?p=936#comment-802 Ken: The first one is a fragment of the painting of the surrender of Vercingetorix after the Battle of Alesia. I thought it was good illustration of Caesar's tough, ruler style. I've often looked at the painting and was sorry so many of the faces are so similar (couldn't he invent another type of soldier?) and so dumb. There you see why Veronese is great: compare this with his <em>Alexander Meeting Darius' Family</em>. Yet there are many good things about the painting, too--the soldiers behind Caesar, the historical details such as his robe, the standards, the weapons and the whole conception of the moment. Ken: The first one is a fragment of the painting of the surrender of Vercingetorix after the Battle of Alesia. I thought it was good illustration of Caesar’s tough, ruler style. I’ve often looked at the painting and was sorry so many of the faces are so similar (couldn’t he invent another type of soldier?) and so dumb. There you see why Veronese is great: compare this with his Alexander Meeting Darius’ Family. Yet there are many good things about the painting, too–the soldiers behind Caesar, the historical details such as his robe, the standards, the weapons and the whole conception of the moment.

]]> By: Ken Januski http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/why-did-they-kill-caesar/#comment-801 Ken Januski Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:14:45 +0000 http://100falcons.wordpress.com/?p=936#comment-801 Quite a wide-ranging, and widely-quoted, essay. For those, like me, who have forgotten so much of Roman history it's been enlightening. And of course I have to wonder about the paintings: the first looks somewhat like British late 19th century, or American 20th century (N.C. Wyeth?) while the bottom one reminds me of early 19th century French (David? Actually I just cheated and looked it up myself and see it is Vincenzo Camuccini, a contemporary of David). Quite a wide-ranging, and widely-quoted, essay. For those, like me, who have forgotten so much of Roman history it’s been enlightening.

And of course I have to wonder about the paintings: the first looks somewhat like British late 19th century, or American 20th century (N.C. Wyeth?) while the bottom one reminds me of early 19th century French (David? Actually I just cheated and looked it up myself and see it is Vincenzo Camuccini, a contemporary of David).

]]> By: cantueso http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/why-did-they-kill-caesar/#comment-800 cantueso Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:36:12 +0000 http://100falcons.wordpress.com/?p=936#comment-800 It is a pity you don’t say who painted those Americanadas. And the link to the second part in the last line of this post does not work. And a question: did killing Ceasar save the Republic? The reason why I am asking is that I don’t know a thing about history, but believe that when a republic is doomed, it is doomed and sauve qui peut, because by definition (and by law)a republic does not depend on the fate or the character of 1 man. It is a pity you don’t say who painted those Americanadas.

And the link to the second part in the last line of this post does not work.

And a question: did killing Ceasar save the Republic? The reason why I am asking is that I don’t know a thing about history, but believe that when a republic is doomed, it is doomed and sauve qui peut, because by definition (and by law)a republic does not depend on the fate or the character of 1 man.

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