Comments on: The Moors Are Coming http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/last-out-of-segobriga-712-ad/ Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:56:22 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: 100swallows http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/last-out-of-segobriga-712-ad/#comment-437 100swallows Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:13:33 +0000 http://100falcons.wordpress.com/?p=95#comment-437 Margot: And the Muladis--are they still around? I was surprised to learn that St. Augustine's mother Monica was a Berber. Is their language the original pre-Arabic one and do they rather speak it than the official language of Morocco? Margot: And the Muladis–are they still around? I was surprised to learn that St. Augustine’s mother Monica was a Berber. Is their language the original pre-Arabic one and do they rather speak it than the official language of Morocco?

]]> By: margotmarrakesh http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/last-out-of-segobriga-712-ad/#comment-432 margotmarrakesh Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:06:37 +0000 http://100falcons.wordpress.com/?p=95#comment-432 The indiginous Moroccans are all Berbers. There are several groups of Berbers in Morocco, each with their own language. They live mainly in the mountains, and in the South, where the majority of the population is Berber. My family is Berber. Margot The indiginous Moroccans are all Berbers. There are several groups of Berbers in Morocco, each with their own language. They live mainly in the mountains, and in the South, where the majority of the population is Berber. My family is Berber.

Margot

]]> By: 100swallows http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/last-out-of-segobriga-712-ad/#comment-413 100swallows Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:45:48 +0000 http://100falcons.wordpress.com/?p=95#comment-413 Margot: Well, some were Arabs, most were Berbers. Here's what Wikipedia has to say: The Muslims who entered Iberia in 711 were mainly Berbers, and were led by a Berber, Tariq ibn Ziyad, though under the suzerainty of the Arab Caliph of Damascus Abd al-Malik and his North African Viceroy, Musa ibn Nusayr. A second mixed army of Arabs and Berbers came in 712 under Ibn Nusayr himself. They supposedly helped the Umayyad caliph Abd ar-Rahman I in Al-Andalus, because his mother was a Berber. During the Taifa era, the petty kings came from a variety of ethnic groups; some-- for instance the Zirid kings of Granada--were of Berber origin. The Taifa period ended when a Berber dynasty--the Almoravids from modern-day Western Sahara and Mauritania--took over Al-Andalus; they were succeeded by the Almohad dynasty from Morocco, during which time al-Andalus flourished. In the power hierarchy, Berbers were situated between the Arabic aristocracy and the Muladi populace. Ethnic rivalry was one of the most important factors driving Andalusi politics. After the fall of the Caliphate, the taifa kingdoms of Toledo, Badajoz, Málaga and Granada had Berber rulers. Margot: Well, some were Arabs, most were Berbers. Here’s what Wikipedia has to say:

The Muslims who entered Iberia in 711 were mainly Berbers, and were led by a Berber, Tariq ibn Ziyad, though under the suzerainty of the Arab Caliph of Damascus Abd al-Malik and his North African Viceroy, Musa ibn Nusayr. A second mixed army of Arabs and Berbers came in 712 under Ibn Nusayr himself. They supposedly helped the Umayyad caliph Abd ar-Rahman I in Al-Andalus, because his mother was a Berber. During the Taifa era, the petty kings came from a variety of ethnic groups; some– for instance the Zirid kings of Granada–were of Berber origin. The Taifa period ended when a Berber dynasty–the Almoravids from modern-day Western Sahara and Mauritania–took over Al-Andalus; they were succeeded by the Almohad dynasty from Morocco, during which time al-Andalus flourished.

In the power hierarchy, Berbers were situated between the Arabic aristocracy and the Muladi populace. Ethnic rivalry was one of the most important factors driving Andalusi politics.

After the fall of the Caliphate, the taifa kingdoms of Toledo, Badajoz, Málaga and Granada had Berber rulers.

]]> By: margotmarrakesh http://100falcons.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/last-out-of-segobriga-712-ad/#comment-412 margotmarrakesh Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:02:00 +0000 http://100falcons.wordpress.com/?p=95#comment-412 The "Moors" are the Moroccans, of course! Margot, a Moroccan in Marrakesh margotmystic.wordpress.com The “Moors” are the Moroccans, of course!

Margot, a Moroccan in Marrakesh
margotmystic.wordpress.com

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